”Log in. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. @MHver3. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. At least for the next 6-8 years. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. Ugh. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. @MHver3. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. 1. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. So at least more spots open. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. 2. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. MHver3 @MHver3. Replying to @MHver3. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. It did ok. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. @MHver3. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. Who stands to benefit the most?“@USFBullTampaBuc They should’ve built these a decade ago. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. 19. Could also mean ND is rethinking. As did VT. But simply never happens. They let UCF pass them up. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. 9. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. yes they are extending his “deadline”. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. 5% each. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. Things have escalated. 5m. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. 1 — and for No. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. @MHver3. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. Show more replies. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. Huskies have come back to the table. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign up. ”Log in. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. @KStateKyle. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. Likes. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. 13. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. The PAC show of unity tweet…. There. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. 26. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Miguel. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. Yormark has a vision. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. Their additions brought stability. @MHver3. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. ACC still has 2 blue bloods to B12’s 1. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. 7. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. BC, Wake, Cuse. 1. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Previous offer for 24. and @TheAPBerry. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. and. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. @MHver3. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Likes. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. 1. MHver3. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. Retweets. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. Gonzaga is in for basketball. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Boise is not completely off the table in football. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. It actually decreases it. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. All 3 tiers. ”Log in. Yormark has a vision. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. Louis Oliverio. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. Replying to @Tomkatf14. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. March 7th. Log in. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. @MHver3. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. Now it’s been twice verified. That is all. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. That was a guarantee. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. MHver3 @MHver3. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. @MHver3. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Also a high ranking member of. . If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. ”Pac voted on SDSU and SMU again. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. Replying to. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. FSU is the most attractive maybe. 7h. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. Retweets. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). @xtmountain. It was $24. 7. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. There. @MHver3. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. We don’t have the endowment they have. Ed. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. I’ve shared that here last summer. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. I’m packing it up. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. Oregon was the third choice as a. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. 7:34 PM · Jul. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. I’ve even called it that myself. My source can confirm Colorado is. 2. That’s it. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. 2. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. ”GK about to get shipped to China. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. 21. Learn more. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Taking a small break from sharing. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. 3 — is made for TV. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. Retweets. @MHver3. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. Got a PAC update. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. Log in. Staples: The realignment battle for No. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. Look for a thread soon. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). 1. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. It was $24. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Pitt actually did improve after the move. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. “@godawgs4 Not really. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. Mountaineer Steve. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. We are indeed talking to Rich Rodriguez to return to WVU but as of now it’s only talks. 21. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. Likes. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. They know. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 6. Log in. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. I don’t hate the PAC. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. 9. 1. 5m. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. Baylor is too. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. This is the “Tier1” package. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. ALT. @MHver3. AZ has and AZSU problem. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. 3. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. @cwishn. ” MHver3 @MHver3. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. 159. I don’t normally delete anything. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. @MHver3. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. Log in. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Boise. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. 131. twitter. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670.